tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post4530489355877388483..comments2024-03-04T13:46:25.458+01:00Comments on Dag Trygsland Hoelseth: HRH Princess Estelle Silvia Ewa Mary, Duchess of ÖstergötlandDag T. Hoelsethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-80258590894859675122012-03-03T08:43:32.921+01:002012-03-03T08:43:32.921+01:00If I had only turned the page in my copy of Bernad...If I had only turned the page in my copy of <i>Bernadotteättlingar</i>... Umpf!<br /><br />DTHDag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-53864143343257393272012-03-03T00:48:58.656+01:002012-03-03T00:48:58.656+01:00No, the Astrid I refer to was not "of course ...No, the Astrid I refer to was not "of course mentioned in the second paragraph of this blog article".<br /><br />The Astrid you mention in the second paragraph is Countess Astrid Ruth Estelle Bernadotte af Wisborg, who is born in 1999 and the daughter of Gunnar Bernadotte. <br /><br />The Astrid I refer to (in addition) is Countess Astrid Désirée Estelle Bernadotte af Wisborg, who is born in 1987 and the daughter of Bertil Bernadotte.<br /><br />So there are two granddaughters and one great-granddaughter of Estelle Bernadotte who have her name among their names.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-38434074841318168402012-03-02T16:42:23.908+01:002012-03-02T16:42:23.908+01:00Thanks, I have corrected the postscript. Astrid wa...Thanks, I have corrected the postscript. Astrid was of course mentioned in the second paragraph of this blog article.<br /><br />DTHDag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-29157239845863136732012-03-02T09:59:21.507+01:002012-03-02T09:59:21.507+01:00The close friendship between Prince Gustaf Adolf a...The close friendship between Prince Gustaf Adolf and Princess Sibylla on one side and Folke and Estelle Bernadotte is indeed a well-known and well-documented fact, but I am afraid you have got their sons wrong. <br /><br />It is the youngest son, Count Bertil Bernadotte af Wisborg, who is close to the current royal family. For instance he attended the wedding two years ago and was also present at the service of thanksgivings last week, and the King and Queen spent their wedding night in his summer house at Ingarö.<br /><br />The eldest son, Count Folke ("Ockie") Bernadotte af Wisborg, is not close to the royal family. Indeed the only descendants of Prince Oscar who remain in close contact with the royal family are Bertil Bernadotte and Dagmar von Arbin, who were both present in the Palace Church. The others have more or less lost (close) contact with the royal family since the death in 1996 of Elsa Cedergren, who was "the connecting link".<br /><br />There is by the way also another distant relative with Estelle among her names: Bertil Bernadotte's daughter Astrid, whose third name is Estelle.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-57267977067152913652012-02-26T14:52:26.470+01:002012-02-26T14:52:26.470+01:00I stand corrected as regards to Norway. If only ...I stand corrected as regards to Norway. If only CP Haakon and Mette-Marit could have exerted some "peer pressure" on their Danish and Swedish cousins! :)Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518784845273761700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-51396152653853039852012-02-26T09:19:58.749+01:002012-02-26T09:19:58.749+01:00Not sure if I can agree with you regarding the Nor...Not sure if I can agree with you regarding the Norwegian Crown Prince couple. There have been 2 Norwegian queens named Ingrid/Ingerid, and the Alexandra name clearly has royal connections. And the name Sverre Magnus is certainly within the Norwegian royal tradition!<br /><br />DTHDag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-3300886804310001072012-02-26T01:15:11.155+01:002012-02-26T01:15:11.155+01:00I'm not sure that I feel quite as strongly as ...I'm not sure that I feel quite as strongly as you and others do about it, but I do think it is more appropriate for a direct heir/ess to a throne to have a name traditional to the monarchy s/he will someday inherit. Of course, presumably, a century hence no one will be able to imagine a more Swedish royal-sounding name than Estelle! <br /><br />Sadly for the historically-minded, though, it should be clear by now that none of the present Scandinavian crown princely couples feel bound by tradition in naming except for the Frederik/Christian rotation of Danish kings.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518784845273761700noreply@blogger.com