tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post8816013565054166342..comments2024-03-04T13:46:25.458+01:00Comments on Dag Trygsland Hoelseth: Erling Sven Lorentzen (1923–2021)Dag T. Hoelsethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-78433545129314889942021-06-06T20:30:24.286+02:002021-06-06T20:30:24.286+02:00Checking more sources: It was the obituary in Afte...Checking more sources: It was the obituary in Aftenposten in 1998 which claimed that James Stove Lorentzen was the grandson of Jørgen Johan Lorentzen, but that can't be entirely correct. Consulting the book "Skippere, meglere, redere : utgitt i anledning av Lorentzens skibsaktieselskabs 50 års jubileum 1926-1976", 1977, by Bård Kolltveit, Axel Borgvald Lorentzen was the son of Johannes Lorentzen, b. 1864, who was the son of Sally and James Stove Lorentzen. And this James Stove Lorentzen (1821-1901) was born in Scotland as the son of Jean (Jane) Campbell (1798-1878) and --- Stove. Jane married for the second time Jørgen Lorentzen (1788-1861) and her son James was adopted by Jørgen and went under the name James Stove Lorentzen. Now, this Jørgen was a Danish-born seaman and later shipowner and the son of a Danish pastor. He settled in Drammen in Norway in 1814. So, the Lorentzens who descend from the Scottish James Stove Lorentzen are Lorentzens by adoption only and this Lorentzen family have no connection to the Lorentzens from Holmestrand. Concerning the James Stove Lorentzen (1921-1998), he also had an uncle James Stove Lorentzen, b. 1892 or 1893, but he died in 1920, so I am quite confident that the James Lorentzen mentioned in Max Manus' book is the aforementioned James Stove Lorentzen, d. 1998.Dag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-39492656777782689372021-06-06T20:00:42.561+02:002021-06-06T20:00:42.561+02:00No, Max Manus was most likely referring to James S...No, Max Manus was most likely referring to James Stove Lorentzen (1921-1998), son of Axel B. Lorentzen (1884-1952) and grandson of Jørgen Johan Lorentzen. James was also in Milorg during the war. No, I don't think James was related, although his family was also involved in shipping.Dag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-11226836654240053052021-06-05T12:35:07.702+02:002021-06-05T12:35:07.702+02:00In "Underwater Saboteur", Max Manus ment...In "Underwater Saboteur", Max Manus mentions "James Lorentzen" who directed work on underground newspapers and propaganda. Gunnar Sonsteby, in "Report from No 24" mentions Erling Lorentzen, the youngest member of the Oslo gang. Is "James Lorentzen" a code name for Erling Lorentzen? Is James Lorentzen a relative of Erling Lorentzen?Priscillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13651501645248010021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-17260721112217028872021-03-15T02:01:38.238+01:002021-03-15T02:01:38.238+01:00Thank you. I found the article but it is too comp...Thank you. I found the article but it is too complicated for me to sign up for the trial subscription😕 All the more reason to appreciate your blog post! <br />Kirstenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12281709649214389017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-12341579618088733872021-03-13T19:26:39.037+01:002021-03-13T19:26:39.037+01:00Formally it was King Haakon who finally gave his c...Formally it was King Haakon who finally gave his consent, but also Olav and Märtha were against the wedding for a long time. Trond Norén Isaksen has written about this, as late as in Aftenposten earlier this week.Dag T. Hoelsethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668254228135893615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1651875509383972296.post-23904616804391114042021-03-11T23:32:18.069+01:002021-03-11T23:32:18.069+01:00I realize now I didn't know much about Mr. Lor...I realize now I didn't know much about Mr. Lorentzen, so thank you for posting. I also read on a link you provided that he,too, didn't have an easy time to convince King Olav to give his consent to his marriage and they had to wait several years. It appears that the couple were well-suited and had a good marriage.Kirstenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12281709649214389017noreply@blogger.com